Agenda and minutes

Special Meeting, Health and Adult Social Care and Communities Overview and Scrutiny Committee
Thursday, 22nd November, 2018 10.00 am

Venue: Committee Suite 1,2 & 3, Westfields, Middlewich Road, Sandbach CW11 1HZ. View directions

Contact: Joel Hammond-Gant  Scrutiny Officer

No. Item


Apologies for Absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors G Baxendale, E Brooks, S Edgar (substituted for by Councillor M Deakin) and I Faseyi (substituted for by Councillor D Flude.)


Declarations of Interest

To provide an opportunity for Members and Officers to declare any disclosable pecuniary and non-pecuniary interests in any item on the agenda.


No declarations of interest were received.


Declaration of Party Whip

To provide an opportunity for Members to declare the existence of a party whip in relation to any item on the Agenda


No declarations of the existence of a party whip were received.


Public Speaking Time/Open Session

A total period of 15 minutes is allocated for members of the public to make a statement(s) on any matter that falls within the remit of the Committee.


Individual members of the public may speak for up to 5 minutes, but the Chairman will decide how the period of time allocated for public speaking will be apportioned, where there are a number of speakers.


Note: in order for officers to undertake and background research, it would be helpful if members of the public notified the Scrutiny Officer listed at the foot of the Agenda at least one working day before the meeting with brief details of the matter to be covered.




No members of the public in attendance expressed an interest in speaking.


Final Decision-Making Business Case for Adult's and Older Peoples Mental Health Services in Cheshire East pdf icon PDF 159 KB

To consider the final decision-making business case for adult’s and older peoples mental health services in Cheshire East.


Please note that the relevant documentation for this item will be published as a supplementary item on Thursday 15th November.

Additional documents:


The committee considered a report and presentation submitted in partnership by the NHS Eastern Cheshire Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG), Cheshire and Wirral Partnership (CWP) and NHS South Cheshire & Vale Royal CCG, that detailed a new proposal, Option 2 Plus, for the redesign of adults of older peoples’ mental health services in Cheshire East.


The committee was informed that Option 2 Plus was a revised version of the previously consulted Option 2. It had been reviewed to take into account the feedback and concern raised by the committee and the wider public relating to;


·         travel and transport implications for affected patients and their carers and families;

·         impacts to local emergency services; and

·         ensuring that there were enough local beds to retain localised services for residents.


Members were advised that a meeting of the combined governing bodies of the CCGs was being held concurrent to the meeting of this committee, at which it was planned for the final decision to be taken on which proposal – Option 2 Plus, or one of the three previously consulted options – would be taken forward.


After considering the information presented, members put questions and comments in relation to;


·         what engagement or consultation had been carried out on Option 2 Plus to date, and whether any more was planned;

·         recruitment and staffing issues and the impacts of these on how effective the Option 2 Plus could be;

·         the potential difficulties of travelling to Lyme Walk House via public transport and nearby car parking;

·         whether the wards in Lyme Walk House would be organised in a way that best supports cohorts of patients from different age groups;

·         where in the locality the six new crisis beds would be placed; and

·         whether the CCGs could guarantee their planned additional financial contributions to the proposal.


It was proposed by Councillor A Moran and seconded by Councillor D Flude, that the committee support Option 2 Plus as the preferred option to the previously consulted proposals. The committee unanimously supported this resolution.


The Chairman then referred the committee to its statutory duty as a health scrutiny body, in determining whether such a proposal should be considered a significant development or variation (SDV), and if so, what it would recommend to be an appropriate level of public consultation for the matter.


The committee concluded by a majority vote that it considered Option 2 Plus to be a level 3 SDV, as per the council’s Health and Adult Social Care Overview and Scrutiny Protocol.


In light of the extensive consultation already undertaken by the CCGs and CWP on this matter, the committee was mindful to waive the government-recommended requirement to undertake a twelve week public consultation for a level 3 SDV, and in this instance requested that the CCGs and CWP undertake a public consultation exercise for a period of four weeks commencing 22 November, 2018.




1          That Option 2 Plus be considered as a Significant Development or Variation.


2          That a recommendation be put to the governing bodies of the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 68.